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Post by Brasse on 2012-03-09, 12:34

I suspect that many of who frequent his forum are interested in producing their own visual novel. However, we are still painfully aware of the fact that the production and completion of a decent visual novel requires time, energy, technical skills and patience, all of which are difficult to acquire and keep. Still, it's fun imagining and discussing ideas, concepts etc. even though they'll never be realized. The intent of this thread is exactly that; a platform to throw out VN ideas you have. I'll post my own idea later this evening.


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Post by imperial.standard on 2012-03-09, 13:12

Brainstorming thread RIGHT at our doorstep! Oh goody... Wink

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-09, 13:52

I have an ides of a VN. We have a guy, gets put into another school due to certain circumcpstances, and he meets girls like some csrefree girl, a big breasted flapper with a big ass and a tan pettanko with a mask fetish.....oh wait. Xp

But neways really with this neine can take someones ideas for themselves if one gets too elaborate

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Post by scopedknife on 2012-03-09, 14:27

I certainly having some beginnings of concepts swimming around in my head like I always do. But at the moment these are too incomplete to share... and if I do share I shall have to be most careful not to give too much information to the general public... just in case ;D

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Post by Malkav on 2012-03-09, 15:52

The key to sharing your ideas, I believe, is to be very vague while still being quite specific.

I've always been interested in developing a story that makes the reader feel, all at once, more and less human than they have ever felt before in their lives. A story in which one questions the validity and integrity of their identity. A story that has the capacity to both invigorate and cripple the passions of the audience in such a way that, by the end of the tale, the feeling the audience ends up with upon reaching the conclusion depends on the audience, itself.

To do that, I've been considering a plot theme that requires both the greatest and least amount of humanity possible at once: survival.
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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-09, 16:20

Malkav wrote:The key to sharing your ideas, I believe, is to be very vague while still being quite specific.

I've always been interested in developing a story that makes the reader feel, all at once, more and less human than they have ever felt before in their lives. A story in which one questions the validity and integrity of their identity. A story that has the capacity to both invigorate and cripple the passions of the audience in such a way that, by the end of the tale, the feeling the audience ends up with upon reaching the conclusion depends on the audience, itself.

To do that, I've been considering a plot theme that requires both the greatest and least amount of humanity possible at once: survival.

For a second I was thinking Saya No Uta for some reason until it got to Survival part

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Post by myshoesarebrown on 2012-03-09, 17:15

I'm much more interesting in writing a regular old book. Though, if I were to make a VN, it wouldn't be a "dating simulator" type. It'd probably involve playing as a governess in a Victorian era mansion, and then strange shit happens. It's been done in a lot of books, and I'd like to see it happen more often than it does in video games.

I'd most likely abandon the anime art for something more western, and in the end, it'd probably most likely resemble a point-and-click adventure game. I would try to include Phoenix Wright-style gameplay at points, where the player must use clues he has gathered to point out the lies in an NPC's dialogue.

And Brasse, I don't know why, but your avatar has been imprinted on my memory. So much so that it has been popping into my mind randomly throughout the day. I hate you.

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Brasse on 2012-03-09, 18:09

Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

I had something lighthearted in mind where there protagonist can interact with and eventually date anthropomorphic prominent political ideologies, whose personalities and quirks are determined by the spirit of the ideologies themselves, how they are perceived by the public, the advantages and problems of the various movements who held these views and the mindset and personalities of influential thinkers within their respective tradition. There would be six girls in total, living together three-by-three in two rooms; the Left and the Right room, respectively.

Conservative-tan: She comes from a rich family and has tastes to match. While she can act classy if required to, her personality is on the brash and somewhat dominating side, with an explosive temper to boot. She likes "common sense"-approaches to problems and is a down-to-earth person in general, but has a tendency to use certain words considered offensive by some minorities (whose reaction she dismisses as "political correctness gone mad"). She does not cope well with sudden change and prefers peace and quiet around her with clear routines. As a genuinely caring and supportive person, she contributes a lot to charity and encourages others to do the same. Her hobbies include going to church, visiting her families country manor on the weekends, baking cupcakes and playing golf (there has to be a scene where the protagonist follows her around the course as her caddy). She cannot stand Marxist-tan. Studies International Relations.

Ideologies: Liberal Conservatism, Christian Democracy, National Liberalism.

Libertarian-tan: Owns a small bookstore specializing in student literature with Syndicalist-tan as her only employee. She is somewhat eccentric, usually serious and values her autonomy immensely; she hates it when people patronize her (especially Social Liberal-tan). She has a "mind your own business" approach to most things and tends to be a bit egoistic. Although she has a very admirable work ethic, she struggles to cope with managing both her university studies (macro-economics, masters level) and the bookstore at the same time. An avid marijuana user, she grows some of her own in a secluded room in the shop. Likes to browse various internet communities and online gunshops - her dream is to one day own a real FN FAL battle rifle - as well as reading (her favourite authors are Robert Nozick and Ayn Rand). Does most of the cooking in the right-wing dorm. Attends a secret Objectivist society. Has a very elaborate plan of what to do in case of a zombie invasion. Natural ditz. Her route mostly focuses on being a business owner and how it relates to the state.

Ideologies: Right-wing Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Classical Liberalism.

Social Liberal-tan: SL-tan hates genuine conflicts - being in the middle of the political spectrum, she usually assumes a position of negotiator and diplomat between two quarreling parties. She will, however, refuse to distance herself from her belief in human rationality and their basic rights and likes a friendly discussion. Can cooperate with most people and prefers to emphasize similarities rather then differences. Avid fan of John Rawls and likes to debate with Libertarian-tan on the topics of positive versus negative liberty. She is currently a student of medicine. Has a highly developed sense of intuition. Her disdain for conflicts leads to her frequently being called a coward by others. Although she is more or less universally liked, she is specially good friends with Socialist-tan, whom she likes to go mountain climbing with. Her hobbies include art, watching TV (her favorite programs are "Yes, Minister" and "The Thick Of It"), climbing and arguing with Libertarian-tan. Secretary of the student council.

Ideologies: Social Liberalism, Utilitarian Liberalism

Socialist-tan: An easy-going gal who studies journalism. She is a fierce protector of the environment and corporate exploitation of the poor. A skilled cook, her trademark vegetarian dishes are loved by all. Strongly dislikes inequality and will go great lengths to see that procedures are fair and square. Spends her time either climbing with SL-tan, hanging up posters and handing out leaflets from one of the many humanitarian and environmentalist organizations she's a member of, cooking or hanging at a local café with a cup of Fairtrade-marked tea. She tends to trust authorities and experts more than her own intuitions, especially when it comes to matters where money is involved. If she notices a crack in her debate adversary's reasoning or inconsistencies in her interviewees' accounts she is quick to pressure them. She is a skilled planner, usually taking care of logistics during the many demonstrations and manifestations she is involved in, always ensuring that food and drink come cheap, Eco-friendly and vegetarian. Grows her own herbs in the Leftist room kitchen window.

Ideologies: Social Democracy, Environmentalism, State Socialism

Marxist-tan: Analytical, cold, bossy and calculating. Likes to divide people into groups and classes. A very bright law student, but tends to dislike and demean people who are less intelligent and knowledgeable then her. Difficult to acquire her genuine respect, but if one manages to do so he or she will have a loyal and trustworthy friend. Is sensitive when it comes to her past as she is not really sure of what to think of it. Despises Conservative-tan. Tends to think in terms of "the end justifies the means". Bitter with the patriarchy and the chauvinist members of the Communist Party, of which she is a member. (In the Good ending she'll confront them). Has refined touch to her, but can let loose among those she respects. Has very high standards for herself and constantly re-evaluates the different schools of Marxist thought that has emerged during the last hundred years. One of the most difficult routes in terms of schooling as the more theoretical aspects of Marxism will be brought up and explained (i.e dialectic materialism, theory of alienation, labor theory of value etc). She enjoys gardening, reading difficult Marxist, post-modernist, radical feminist and post-structuralist literature and jogging.

Ideologies: Orthodox Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, Left-Feminism

Syndicalist-tan: A impulsive, bubbly and energetic girl who likes to provoke and tease people. Works at Libertarian-tan's store and tries to persuade her to reorganize it into a cooperative (which happens in her good ending). Well-versed around labor-oriented questions and member of the local revolutionary trade union. Loves personal freedom immensely and believes that everyone should be able to choose the economic system of their liking. "Expropriates" books from the store and hands them to the local library instead sometimes, driving Libertarian-tan insane. She plays bass in a local punk-band that preforms regularly at a small hipster-bar. Loves V for Vendetta. Likes Marxist-tan (even though Marxist-tan used to be mean to her in the past) but finds her bossy attitude overbearing sometimes. Cares little about the opinion of others. Can quote Michael Bakunin and Max Stirner from memory. Often starts projects that end up being abandoned half-way though completion. A student of biology. Feeds a wild cat with black fur that comes by every evening.
Wears wooden clogs.

Ideologies: (Anarcho-)Syndicalism, Social Anarchism, Libertarian Marxism/Socialism



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Illegalist-tan:
Syndicalist-tans restless sister, who visits the bookstore in search of esoteric titles. Very talented at making home-made bombs. Gets most of her food from dumpsters and attacks farms and stores that sell furs at nights. Aims to destroy society.

Ideologies: Illegalism, Insurrectionism, Anarcho-Primitivism

Nazi-tan: Fiercely aggressive, proud and authoritarian. Used to be a member of the student council before she was kicked out. Spends most of her time on the internet, arguing with people on the commentary section on youtube videos. Aims to conquer the world and kill all "weaklings".

Ideologies: Nazism, Fascism


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And Brasse, I don't know why, but your avatar has been imprinted on my memory. So much so that it has been popping into my mind randomly throughout the day. I hate you.

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by myshoesarebrown on 2012-03-09, 19:11

So, basically, you are suggesting...

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Brasse on 2012-03-09, 19:39

The intention of the thread was to showcase ideas that people are too lazy to ever pick up and turn into actual VNs, but hell, I can write a route or two if the project would gain momentum. Which does not seem likely to happen, but it would nevertheless be cool.



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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-09, 20:50

I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Brasse on 2012-03-09, 21:17

Zarich wrote:I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.

I think there was a few concept images based around something similar - I remember the detail vaguely, the Christian girl was for instance a carpenter who had a habit of nailing her hands to whatever she was working on.


Myself I believe that I can do Social Liberalism, Socialism and Left Libertarianism justice. I don't feel that I can convey the right-wing economical critique in a satisfying manner and I have yet to fully grasp the aspects of Marxism beyond its practical implications, orthodox as well as non-orthodox. Additionally, I am confident that I can make Illegalist-tan seem at the very least a little bit sensible.

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-09, 22:04

Brasse wrote:
Zarich wrote:I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.

I think there was a few concept images based around something similar - I remember the detail vaguely, the Christian girl was for instance a carpenter who had a habit of nailing her hands to whatever she was working on.


Myself I believe that I can do Social Liberalism, Socialism and Left Libertarianism justice. I don't feel that I can convey the right-wing economical critique in a satisfying manner and I have yet to fully grasp the aspects of Marxism beyond its practical implications, orthodox as well as non-orthodox. Additionally, I am confident that I can make Illegalist-tan seem at the very least a little bit sensible.

Though, I do have to say, Conservative-tan would be hated by most other of the -tan girls. Mainly b/c of the Fanaticall Christianity. If this got picked up I could also write Nazi-tan stuff. But everything would be based on how my project works out.

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Post by imperial.standard on 2012-03-09, 23:10

Hmmm I wonder if they are also wearing their clothes accordingly to their "party" colors? EG; Socialist wears pink, Marxist red, Facists blue/black, etc...

And I did not see Liberation Theology represented - I am offended... XD

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-10, 00:27

imperial.standard wrote:Hmmm I wonder if they are also wearing their clothes accordingly to their "party" colors? EG; Socialist wears pink, Marxist red, Facists blue/black, etc...

I would guess so but not like for the whole outfit, maybe just like some parts, some places.

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Post by kosherbacon on 2012-03-10, 00:46

Political pantsu.

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-10, 00:49

kosherbacon wrote:Political pantsu.

One of the chars then would def be going Nopan and the Conservative girl would then be conservative in underwear choice, Bloomers (not the sports king, the weird puffy/frilly kind, leads to some nice name-calling xp)

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Post by MDV on 2012-03-10, 05:08

If I'd write my own VN? I guess it's time to recycle this post on the KS boards:

It takes place in a small city in a country in northern/western continental Europe. The main character is a in his late teens, and spent most of his adolescence being a no-lifer and spending his time on videogames and the internet. He's an adopted only-child with two married fathers. Although he enjoys his loner-existance, he feels like he's missing out on too much and decides to get a life and expand his circle of friends. In this proces, he'll meet the heroines of the game.

The first one is a cute meganekko type of girl the protagonist goes to school with. She doesn't appear to have any real friends, just like him, and that's exactly why he goes after her. She plays a musical instrument, and is very serious about it. She's the type of girl who always goes straight home after school. The two fall in love develop a relationship and become intimate, but the guy doesn't get to know her at that well, just the surface of her personality. The girl lives with her mother and hates her father because he 'did something horrible and abandoned her and her mother at a young age'. Her mother is the type of parent who thinks of their child as a prodigy and is hellbent on making a succesfull artist of her daughter, she doesn't like the fact that her daughter is seeing a boy and despised men in general. As the story progresses, the girl will be faced with the tough choice of pleasing her mother (quite a bad and abusive parent, but the girl feels like she owes everything she has to her mother) or her boyfriend. As things get positively dramatic, it is revealed that the girls biological father is actually one of the main characters adoptive fathers. On top of that, the father never did something horrible, and the mother just divorced him after some fights and lied in court to keep the father from seeing her child again. Is the love between the girl and the main character strong enough to survive this family drama? It depends on the choices you make in the game.

I don't have much of an idea what the second girl will look like, but she likes rock 'n roll and is politically active. The main character meets her at a rock concert. The two start to hang out together. The girl introduces him to her friends, who are all part of the same nationalist movement. At first he's sceptical of the group and their ideas, and only hangs out with them because of the girl and his desire to meet new people, but as time goes by, he 'awakens' and becomes a radical himself. This puts him into confilcts with his parents, his school and pretty much everyone out of the movement.

I wasn't sure about the third character, and I'm still not.

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Post by imperial.standard on 2012-03-10, 14:53

Brasse wrote:Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

OK how about if I donate one character to this idea of yours?

Monarchist-tan

An "much, much older than they look" kind of lady, extremely refined and well mannered. Can be stand-offish at times and very protective to her ideas of good natural order and ideal governance, but all in all a very well-meaning person. She looked richer than she actually is but after all that happened in the past, she is left only with a fraction of wealth she used to have but she pretty much hides the fact well. May occasionally wear crown shaped jewelry or brooches to denote who she actually is but at times she will go low profile accordingly. Hates Marxist-tan with passion, which she considers someone who isn't right in the head.

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Post by Brasse on 2012-03-10, 16:57

MDV wrote:If I'd write my own VN? I guess it's time to recycle this post on the KS boards:

It takes place in a small city in a country in northern/western continental Europe. The main character is a in his late teens, and spent most of his adolescence being a no-lifer and spending his time on videogames and the internet. He's an adopted only-child with two married fathers. Although he enjoys his loner-existance, he feels like he's missing out on too much and decides to get a life and expand his circle of friends. In this proces, he'll meet the heroines of the game.

The first one is a cute meganekko type of girl the protagonist goes to school with. She doesn't appear to have any real friends, just like him, and that's exactly why he goes after her. She plays a musical instrument, and is very serious about it. She's the type of girl who always goes straight home after school. The two fall in love develop a relationship and become intimate, but the guy doesn't get to know her at that well, just the surface of her personality. The girl lives with her mother and hates her father because he 'did something horrible and abandoned her and her mother at a young age'. Her mother is the type of parent who thinks of their child as a prodigy and is hellbent on making a succesfull artist of her daughter, she doesn't like the fact that her daughter is seeing a boy and despised men in general. As the story progresses, the girl will be faced with the tough choice of pleasing her mother (quite a bad and abusive parent, but the girl feels like she owes everything she has to her mother) or her boyfriend. As things get positively dramatic, it is revealed that the girls biological father is actually one of the main characters adoptive fathers. On top of that, the father never did something horrible, and the mother just divorced him after some fights and lied in court to keep the father from seeing her child again. Is the love between the girl and the main character strong enough to survive this family drama? It depends on the choices you make in the game.

I don't have much of an idea what the second girl will look like, but she likes rock 'n roll and is politically active. The main character meets her at a rock concert. The two start to hang out together. The girl introduces him to her friends, who are all part of the same nationalist movement. At first he's sceptical of the group and their ideas, and only hangs out with them because of the girl and his desire to meet new people, but as time goes by, he 'awakens' and becomes a radical himself. This puts him into conflicts with his parents, his school and pretty much everyone out of the movement.

I wasn't sure about the third character, and I'm still not.

For some reason (especially from the second route) I keep imagining a more or less dead town without soul, with one-story buildings such as this one housing cheap restaurants complete with a bar serving three kinds of beer and a "casino" (two or three poker machines or one armed bandits always frequented by the same people) being the place "where it's at" during the weekends, small, identical houses in rows like these, there is nothing to do and mix of thinly veiled depression, loathing and despair is seeping through the very walls of the grey architecture that constitute this Gehenna of false complacency and xenophobia.

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Brasse wrote:Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

OK how about if I donate one character to this idea of yours?

Monarchist-tan

An "much, much older than they look" kind of lady, extremely refined and well mannered. Can be stand-offish at times and very protective to her ideas of good natural order and ideal governance, but all in all a very well-meaning person. She looked richer than she actually is but after all that happened in the past, she is left only with a fraction of wealth she used to have but she pretty much hides the fact well. May occasionally wear crown shaped jewelry or brooches to denote who she actually is but at times she will go low profile accordingly. Hates Marxist-tan with passion, which she considers someone who isn't right in the head.

Good idea, but as monarchism (as in, a movement supporting absolute monarchy) is philosophically and practically not too different from conservatism or very popular worldwide nowadays, she'd be assigned a minor role, probably an old friend/sempai of Conservatism-tan. Social Liberalism-tan would probably like to have her around as long as she does not interfere with things and stick her nose where it doesn't belong (as liberals usually tolerate, or even endorse, constitutional monarchy). Also, she is unlikely to be taken seriously by the leftists.

Regarding the hatred for Conservative-tan, I don't see why she'd be hated by everyone. Social Liberalism-tan and Libertarian-tan would probably have no problem cooperating with her and perhaps even consider her as a friend. While conservatives and liberals have a difficult time to work together in the US, it's far more common to see them cooperate and form a coalition government (see the UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Japan and so on) and many conservative parties take a libertarian approach to fiscal matters.

As for the colours, I think this is a good scheme:

Conservatism-tan: Deep Blue
Libertarian-tan: Yellow
Social Liberal-tan: Light Blue/Purple
Socialist-tan: Pink/Green
Marxist-tan: Red (perhaps yellow as a secondary colour)
Syndicalist-tan: Black/Red
Nazi-tan: Brown
Illegalist-tan: Black/Green
Monarchist-tan: White (with lots of royal imagery, such as crowns or Fleur-de-lis)

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Post by MDV on 2012-03-10, 17:25

For some reason (especially from the second route) I keep imagining a more or less dead town without soul, with one-story buildings such as this one housing cheap restaurants complete with a bar serving three kinds of beer and a "casino" (two or three poker machines or one armed bandits always frequented by the same people) being the place "where it's at" during the weekends, small, identical houses in rows like these, there is nothing to do and mix of thinly veiled depression, loathing and despair is seeping through the very walls of the grey architecture that constitute this Gehenna of false complacency and xenophobia.
Really? That's kind of funny, I imagined it to be quite the opposite of what you describe. What I had in mind was a cosy looking progressive and tolerant Randstad town full of smiling people. Behind this facade you'll find a degenerating society in which broken families are more common than happy ones, multicultural neighbourhoods are turning into battlegrounds and apathy and cynicism parasite on the people's minds...
I sound like conservatism-tan, don't I? Wink

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Post by Brasse on 2012-03-10, 18:01

We're actually on to the same idea, I believe, but I imagined the façade to be there, but very transparent, plastic and not convincing in any way, shape or form - even though the residents try their hardest to convince both themselves and others that they are happy, the fundamental boredom and gnawing regret of not living a "successful life" according to the norms of society drive them to failure.

Well, that's the impression that I got while passing through the small town of Åmål by night a few weeks ago, I've never felt such a surge of sudden seemingly unprovoked disdain before.

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Malkav on 2012-03-10, 18:11

Zarich wrote:For a second I was thinking Saya No Uta for some reason until it got to Survival part

Saya no Uta was a crazy story, one that I absolutely loved. But it didn't really mesh well with this thing I've had in mind for many years. So, while it was an awesome read, I think the only way I'll satisfy this creative urge is to actually put it together Smile I'm not sure precisely how to describe it, but I essentially want to mix the feeling of gritty emptiness with magical liveliness to produce an entirely different sensation, altogether. If that makes sense.

Basse wrote:Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing...

This is, indeed, quite an amusing idea! ^_^ The personalities of each character/political ideology you've outlined should make for an interesting story, if nothing else. Also, I agree: your avatar is quite memorable.


This is incredibly well-organized. The plot is simple, but you already have a blueprint for this story in place; all that's needed now is to assemble the ideas into a full-fledged literary work Smile

MDV wrote:If I'd write my own VN? I guess it's time to recycle this post on the KS boards:

This is a good story so far. If you decide at some point to develop it further, I think it has the potential to be quite successful. Then again, finishing things can always be "the big problem," as was the case with the KS devs xD as for myself, well... there's a reason that I've not yet tried to put together a group for my own story, shall we say!

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by MDV on 2012-03-10, 18:29

Brasse wrote:We're actually on to the same idea, I believe, but I imagined the façade to be there, but very transparent, plastic and not convincing in any way, shape or form - even though the residents try their hardest to convince both themselves and others that they are happy, the fundamental boredom and gnawing regret of not living a "successful life" according to the norms of society drive them to failure.

Well, that's the impression that I got while passing through the small town of Åmål by night a few weeks ago, I've never felt such a surge of sudden seemingly unprovoked disdain before.
Yeah, that makes sense, I see some differences though. Because the town I had in mind is part of one of the largest metropolitan area. Not regret and feelings of failure are but victimisation and a sense of losing what is dear to them is what feeds the negative emotions of its inhabitants. This doesn't mean all is bad though, the problems are beneath the surface.
This is a good story so far. If you decide at some point to develop it further, I think it has the potential to be quite successful. Then again, finishing things can always be "the big problem," as was the case with the KS devs xD as for myself, well... there's a reason that I've not yet tried to put together a group for my own story, shall we say!
I think the two main problems will be:
1. Even the concept I posted is full of social commentary. Unlike KS or MS, my story has a political message. I don't just want the story to entertain, I want it to put people's world view under pressure and make them see things in a different light. People disagreeing with the message won't work on the project, which will mean finding devs is going to be hard.
2. I can't write worth a damn in English. My English spelling and grammar are bad and my sentences aren't pretty at all. I think I can write a novel in my native language, but not in English. Sure, I understand some English, German and French, but I can hardly express my thoughts and feelings properly in those languages. The concept I posted would sound much better if I wrote it in Dutch, like everything I'll ever write. My story just wouldn't work all that well in a different language, which makes an international team close to impossible.

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Zarich on 2012-03-10, 19:11

Hottdamn I missed a good amount while taking those SATs.

This idea isn't really for the if I would write my own VN as I am currently writing it with one other guy currently But here it goes for a non-formal synopsis without trying to reveal much.

Basically, it is a Nakige-style VN inspired by the KS girls of them having something different, but in this case instead of Physical Disabilities, I went more general for the VN to deal with more Social problems in a matter. In some way, each of the Four girls are broken in some way, so it also includes some Psychological problems. I won't say in what way, but some base examples I thought up before I made the characters were, Depression/Self-harm/cutting, Child Abuse ect. I have a lot of friends that overcame their set of problems (Bi-polar, Cutting, Schizophrenia ect) and I've done hours of research on everything for what I"m planning for almost total realism with an inter-twinning plot between the characters, some tensions some might have in the past and the choices that affect them through out, so it won't just be once one is on a set path for a character it will mainly focus on that character's romance path 'n stuff.

and that is all I'ma type, long hours of test taking made my brain weary, so now it is time to sleep and maybe revise my cloudy idea in synopsis form (I"m pretty much atm just working on all paths with one other person and have all the character ideas basically set in stone.)

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Malkav on 2012-03-10, 20:31

MDV wrote:I don't just want the story to entertain, I want it to put people's world view under pressure and make them see things in a different light.

I know exactly what you mean.

MDV wrote:The concept I posted would sound much better if I wrote it in Dutch, like everything I'll ever write. My story just wouldn't work all that well in a different language, which makes an international team close to impossible.

Ah, the language barrier. Translators aren't too rare, though as you said, finding people who agree with the message you want to get across might make that more difficult. Personally, I would end up complicating the matter further by insisting that the ideas are accurately expressed across languages, thus necessitating a very, very skilled translator. Those are rare. And I'm not sure if this is the case with Dutch, but some languages are notorious for having many, many words that simply do not translate into any other language at all. Which would be a huge problem.

Damn Razz now you've really caught my interest in your idea.
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by deadleaves on 2012-03-10, 21:45

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Good idea, but as monarchism (as in, a movement supporting absolute monarchy)

I just have to point out that very few monarchists these days are actually in support of absolute monarchy, 90% of them support the idea of constitutional monarchy, albeit maybe with more executive power than in most countries today.

In general though, I think making a very politically charged game like this, would be extremely difficult, not to mention it would be extremely difficult for the developers to actually not push their own personal beliefs into the game, and if you do, you've already alienated some possible players.
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Brasse on 2012-03-10, 22:15

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Brasse wrote:
Good idea, but as monarchism (as in, a movement supporting absolute monarchy)

I just have to point out that very few monarchists these days are actually in support of absolute monarchy, 90% of them support the idea of constitutional monarchy, albeit maybe with more executive power than in most countries today.

You have a point, if constitutional monarchy entails positions where the monarch has a direct say in and can affect political affairs. The position that most people seem to support, i.e a constitutional monarchy where the monarch is prohibited from as much as speak out about politics in public statements, let alone directly interfere with the process of government, is too weak to be its own ideology. This view is very common among conservatives, liberals and even a great number of social democrats in countries with constitutional monarchies.

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In general though, I think making a very politically charged game like this, would be extremely difficult, not to mention it would be extremely difficult for the developers to actually not push their own personal beliefs into the game, and if you do, you've already alienated some possible players.

True, it's especially difficult to appear fair in a politically heterogeneous environment such as the internet, and people will most likely interpret dialogue in very different ways. I will focus on presenting the ideologies in a positive light mostly with the occasional picking on each other and presenting genuine problems which each ideology which people who believe they belong to a certain one in real life should tackle. Of course, each girl will in her own route criticise other ideologies, but not go too deep - most of it will probably be somewhat brief and shallow or taking the piss, i.e someone calling Libertarian-tan a scruple-less egoist and her rights based ethics "nonsense upon stilts" or Socialist-tan a naïve hippie with a poor understanding of economy. I AM tempted to make Nazi-tan a bit of a joke character if I'm ever getting started on this, but she should get somewhat objective treatment too, for fairness' sake.

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-10, 23:42

Brasse wrote: I AM tempted to make Nazi-tan a bit of a joke character if I'm ever getting started on this, but she should get somewhat objective treatment too, for fairness' sake.

In my mind I was thinking of the more pathetic character whose ideals go in front of her wanting friends in real life. Sort of a Mix between failure, Haughtiness and a frenzied Viciousness

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Worthington on 2012-03-10, 23:59

Where's anarchist-tan?

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Brasse on 2012-03-11, 10:27

Anarchism is far from a homogeneous ideology - what anarchists have in common is that they wish to abolish hierarchic structures in society, there is no agreement regarding questions regarding which economic system is preferable or how social change will be brought about. Social anarchism, represented by Syndicalist-tan, entails anarcho-communism, anarcho-collectivism and mutualism as economic policies and traditional revolution, syndicalism and gradualism as means of political change. Not that Syndicalist-tan also represents other movement and schools of thought close to social anarchism, for instance libertarian Marxism. Individualist Anarchism and Insurrectionary Anarchism are represented by Illegalist-tan, and usually dislike organizations such as Syndicalist-tan's trade-unions, calling them inherently oppressive. Their means of social change is usually aimed towards creating a more general feeling of public unrest by making them question society, more or less. Libertarian-tan partly represents Anarcho-capitalism, which is very close to traditional right-wing libertarianism and wishes to create a completely laissez-faire capitalist economy without the night watchman state. All these positions clash frequently, usually restricted to words, but not always (insurrectionists and syndicalists have fought each other in Greece). The conflicts would be dealt with in the VN.

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Post by Merlyn_LeRoy on 2012-03-11, 14:16

I like anarchy, but it's difficult to enforce.
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Malkav on 2012-03-11, 14:51

Perhaps the biggest problem that I can see in a "Politics Girl" game would be a general sense of agreement regarding the precise definitions of each ideology. Most people, I assume, do not know the definitions of every political ideology that exists, and so it will be up to the devs/writers to ensure that the definitions of each are accurately and fairly described. If possible, this should be done partly in layman's terms.

Complicating this is the fact that, even within ideologies, there are often many splinter/split factions with disagreeing/conflicting views. In Libertarianism, for instance, there are three major issues that divide the ideology (Aggression/Non-Aggression, Proprietarian/Non-Proprietarian, Statist/Anarchistic), effectively creating eight subsets of Libertarianism. Thus, you might have to define each Political Girl more narrowly than a Conservative/Socialist label could accomplish.

Creating such a VN would be quite challenging. But it could also turn out to be quite epic Wink
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by imperial.standard on 2012-03-11, 15:00

Malkav wrote:
Creating such a VN would be quite challenging. But it could also turn out to be quite epic Wink

Eh... if it were up to me, it would be about pleasing (and agreeing with) the girl's political rants enough so that she allows you to get into her pants...

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Malkav on 2012-03-11, 15:10

imperial.standard wrote:
Malkav wrote:
Creating such a VN would be quite challenging. But it could also turn out to be quite epic Wink

Eh... if it were up to me, it would be about pleasing (and agreeing with) the girl's political rants enough so that she allows you to get into her pants...

And then we collect the pantsu-flags of the conquered!
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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by coolizer on 2012-03-12, 03:47

i think of these -tans and i cant really imagine it as... a "heroine" tho i can see them more as mascots
if i was to make something i would rather a kinetic novel instead of a visual novel because it would be easier to convey the feelings of the game in general, only setback would be that only 1 heroine is necessary
but if it was multiple heroines it could allow, a selection at the start and some random true story at the end (something like clannad? i guess?) ... anyway ... good luck with people who have the guts and motivation to start a project and hope you all the best in creating something worthwhile~

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Zarich on 2012-03-13, 00:15

I just thought of this late at night at around 3 (well 2 due to the time shift). Anyone wants it feel free to use and change it, I have my own project I'm working on.

New Project Idea: Music-Shoujo

Basis: Based off the KS start but with music, the main protagonist gets a scholarship to the biggest musical school in the world. While ½ Musical Conservatory, the students can choose what they play and what they want to learn related to music. But a school is still a school so the students still have to go to classes. The heroines would be based off qualities of the music along with stereotypes of those who listen to the music (So don't be hating if I miss represent).

My Ideas for Characters (This is based off my own ideas so ideas for paths and characteristics are not complete, so if anyone wants to pick this up for themselves they can do whatever genres they):

1. Classical-tan: A Composer, Conductor and plays the piano, Classical-tan takes music extremely seriously, at sometimes locking herself in a practice room for days to compose a piece but is still able to maintain some of the top grades in the school. She always dresses neatly and formally everyday. She can seem slightly snappy at times. She tolerates or is wary of all the other girls but doesn't know anything about their music as she only listened to classical music since she was born. Her path would deal with helping her in composing a piece for a whole orchestra

2. Jazz-tan: Proficient in music theory, Jazz-tan is a multi-instrumentalist who plays Piano, Trumpet, Sax, Bass Guitar, and the Drums. She dresses in all black and a black hat and has a bad habit of smoking in class, a bad habit she gain from constant nightclub and jazz performances. While appearing to be a cool person, in her mind she sees other genres and those who listen to those not worth to her time, acting snobby and dismissive to them. She thinks that they could never pull off technical proficiency and has as much knowledge in music theory as her. Her path would be to help her with her grades, as she does a lot of night shows, almost daily, and helping her be more open to other music and imfluences

3. Pop-tan: Wielding a Perfect body and personality, Pop-tan is the idol of the school. In her first year she used to be Rock-tan but as she entered her second year she had the urge to be as popular as her father back in the day (her father being a big 'n famous Rock 'n roll guitarist and singer but then became a teacher at the school after an accident) so Rock-tan changed her image, stopped writing music and became pop-tan. Her path would deal with stuff as like help her with her father, who disowned her when she stopped writing music and getting others to write music for her, making her just a symbol (or something). While liked by the guys and the non-music students, she is hated by the other girls.

4. Metal-tan: A Girl that seems scary and imposing at first, she is actually a fun-loving and friendly girl. She spends most of her time listening to music and going to concerts (a force to be reckoned with at the most-pits) and sometimes forgets basic necessities such as bathing. Probably the most ostracized of the girls, their image of her makes her seem like a girl who worships Satan and cuts herself everyday. They all also have a bad opinion of her music without even listening to it and doesn't even bother to listen to her work. Childhood friends with Pop-tan , Metal-tan holds a personal vendetta with her for going commercial and not making any music
with any soul in it.

5. Country/Bluegrass/Old-time-Tan: A rural farmer girl, she has a weird view of what a city should be, trying and failing to be like her ideas what city folk should be. She was born in a poor family and got into the school via the same scholarship program as the protagonist. Deemed 'uncivilized' by many of the girls, she works hard in both music and studies to work. She has a hatred (like all the other girls) against Pop-tan for what she did with Country music in some of her school-wide concerts. While kind and caring with a deep knowledge of how to live on her own devices, she is also slightly weird in the way she has weird thoughts and expectations of city folk and a penchant for singing Appalachian Murder Ballads (just search it up).

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Post by Waytfm on 2012-03-13, 00:46

@Zarich: I really like the setting. I think a music school would be really fun to write about. I'm not so crazy about the heroines, but that's just personal preference. I've never been a fan of basing characters on things like music stereotypes or political ideology. It's just not my cup of tea. I'm really tempted to use that setting and maybe a little bit of the heroine scheme and start my own project. Really, really tempted. So that might happen if there's any interest in it.

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-13, 01:12

Waytfm wrote:@Zarich: I really like the setting. I think a music school would be really fun to write about. I'm not so crazy about the heroines, but that's just personal preference. I've never been a fan of basing characters on things like music stereotypes or political ideology. It's just not my cup of tea. I'm really tempted to use that setting and maybe a little bit of the heroine scheme and start my own project. Really, really tempted. So that might happen if there's any interest in it.

I tried to be fair with the musical stereotypes, hell I based the metal stereotypes on what have been told and thought that I did, just whittled down a little bit. But I know that there are elitists for every genre, and lots of open minded guys in every genre (I'm one of the open minded one, my computer filled with Metal, Classical, J-Pop, Folk [celtic, n other stuff], Bluegrass, ect). Three o clock in the morning really isn't my active time (my active time around 11:30 at night, till whenever Perry Mason ends >.>). If you ever pick it up and still use some sort of Metal-ness in it, just call me, I'm a pretty good source.

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Post by imperial.standard on 2012-03-13, 11:26

Zarich....good God, where is ROCK-TAN ?!

I want my rock and roll dammit! Mad

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Post by Zarich on 2012-03-13, 11:51

imperial.standard wrote:Zarich....good God, where is ROCK-TAN ?!

I want my rock and roll dammit! Mad

Sorry I.S i was going to have rock-tan but then in my head I decided to go with Metal and make Rock-Tan into Pop-Tan to show a change in the populat music scene. Incecentally I ripped everything off my view of Lady GaGa going from Rock to Pop. The money and the fame. Remember, there are so many genres nd I can't have a ten girl super-Harem VN.....then again....

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Post by Malkav on 2012-03-13, 17:26

Zarich wrote:Remember, there are so many genres nd I can't have a ten girl super-Harem VN.....then again....

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Post by Al Capwn on 2012-03-13, 20:16

Not that I have any writing or drawing skills to speak of.
I would write a thriller. Here's how it would go.
Protagonist starts first year of college with a female friend who happens to pick the same college as him. Everything is proceeding normally except for the fact that the protagonist is already falling on financial hardships. He picks up a second job hoping that he'll get enough money for the rent and utilities. One night he is leaving his second job late, and to witness a gang/mafia deal gone awry. Terrified he turns-tail and bolts. He gets back to his apartment and mulls over what to do about what he saw. Here one would make the choice to go to the police, or keep it to yourself. Then depending on the players choice on what to do with the information you could get in favor with the gang/mafia or the police. The protagonist essentially becomes an information broker. As the
VN progresses the protagonist becomes more and more established broker.
the characters
Female friend: A little bit clingy, she really does care for your well-being, often offering to cook for the protagonist and loan money
First new friend: (Yes I know I didn't mention him above, but he plays an important part in the out come of the end) An easy going and aloof kind of guy who has a really dry sense of humor. Relatively early in the beginning he finds out that you are an information broker, but doesn't really pry into the situation. In the end it is revealed that is the most famous/infamous Information broker and that he is the orchestrator of your betrale.
The Chance Encounter woman: while out collecting information the protagonist is caught "spying" and a chase begins(Police or gang/mafia depending on whom you associate the least) while running through the streets the protagonist collides head long in to a woman buried into her cellphone, causing it to break. The protagonist then gets the choice of apologizing or continue to fleeing.
Apologizing to her would result in you using her as a cover to escape, and you end up buying her a new cellphone later she becomes interested in the protagonist. Continue to flee and she cause a big scene that almost gets you caught, and possibly become an enemy.
The Inspector: Best described as "off the rocker" but is the protagonist's main contact for the police
The Gang boss: Cool, calm, and calculating. This is the person information is relayed to for the gang/mafia

Well that's my two cents, I know I left a lot out but, I think it would add some variety for the VNs out there


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Post by Worthington on 2012-03-13, 20:50

Al Capwn wrote:who do I have to contact to get my username reactivated?
From what I can see, your username is already active.

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by ILY on 2012-03-13, 20:53

Worthington wrote:
Al Capwn wrote:who do I have to contact to get my username reactivated?
From what I can see, your username is already active.

Why does it say he's a guest though?

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by kosherbacon on 2012-03-13, 21:58

On my end, "Al Capwned" appears on the list of active users, with three posts already on the forums. Are you trying to sign up as something else?

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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by Al Capwned on 2012-03-13, 22:13

DERPPPPP... I did not go to the link in my email... sorry for the stir... Embarassed


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Re: If you would write your own VN...

Post by HeDanny on 2012-03-15, 15:23

Vague, yet specific? I will give that a go. How about...

So how many VNs have people seen that were done in the third person? One where every character is a regular on screen character. Honestly the only example I can think of is not even technically a VN, and that's Enchanted Arms. If I ever made a VN, it would be in third person. I .. just don't like first person anything. It is always far to constrictive.

VNs need more animation. I'm not talking about full on constant anime cut scenes or anything. I like the way most VNs work now, with backgrounds and sprites. I'd just really like to see more small movements in those ingredients. Trees that sway. People turning the page of a book. Lights coming on and going off. Just small little accents that try to diminish the paper doll syndrome. This especially goes for sprite transitions, which in most VNs is non-existant.

I've also another visual presentation idea that is incredibly simple. It is something I came up with several years ago while working on BLATANT PLUG School Spirit - the Web Comic though, so I doubt it will happen any time soon. It is pretty much something that I came up with because "Damnit Jim, I'm an Author, not an Illustrator!" and it would very simply allow me to tell a VN style story in a really quite unique (yet at the same time completely familiar) way. To be honest it is such a simple idea that I am really surprised I have not seen it done yet.

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